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【RIP JACK MORRISON】 ([personal profile] unabates) wrote in [community profile] victory_road2019-08-02 06:42 pm

[ august catch-up catch-all ]

Who: Jack and others

Where: All over da place

When: End of July, all of August

Summary: A catch all for threads so I don't make a billion new logs as I catch up.

Rating: PG-13

Log:





meteorman: (10 | all at once)

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-03 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
[It's a little odd still to have something like a permanent home. Even his house in Gravity Falls hadn't really felt like his after thirty years absent from it. The closest he's had was the boat, and he and Stan didn't get to spend much time on it before he showed up at Mom's house.

Which is to say despite being all moved in Ford still feels like a visitor in his own home. It'll be a while still before he settles, for the given value of settling a man like him can achieve. Company sounds good right now.]


Of course. I have an actual couch for you to sit on now.

[What luxury!]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-03 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Surprise me.

[He's never really had a housewarming. Conversation Jack wants to have aside, this might be fun. Company in his house that isn't either family or business? How novel.

It doesn't entirely occur to him that this is a little date-like, what with the food and booze. He's used to thinking of dates as specifically outings where you dress up and go to a restaurant and pretend to be normal. Maybe a movie too. That's what a date was when he was still young enough to contemplate dating, at any rate.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-03 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
[The house itself is back behind the museum. While the buildings made to house the junior trainers aren't far away, it's easy to tell which one is Ford's: it's the biggest and it has a Decidueye perched on the roof. It's two levels and round because of course Stanford Pines couldn't have a house that's shaped normally (and perhaps has reasons to want a minimum of hard angles). It's made of the same concrete and stone as the face of the gym, and when Ford opens the door Jack can probably see past him to more of the same stone offsetting the plaster walls in key places.]

You joke, but this house doesn't have nearly enough liquor in it yet.

[Pizza, yes, very exciting, but he heard there was booze? He's got a whole cabinet that is woefully under-stocked.]

Come in. Put your coat anywhere.

[This house does have a row of hooks by the door. Ford's trenchcoat is conspicuously not hanging on them. Instead it's hanging from the back of one of the living room couches trying its very best to pretend to be one of the woven wool blankets already doing that job.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-06 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
To a point. None of my PHDs are in architecture, but I had a say in the aesthetics.

[One of his PHDs is in fine arts, so that's a word he's allowed to use. He crouches down on his haunches to give Jolene's ears a ruffle and (if she likes) allow her to scamper up onto his shoulders. He's wearing his usual turtleneck so she's got plenty to grip onto.

The kitchen area is across the living room from the entryway. The backsplash and counters are that same stone. It's a little under-furnished still, not quite cluttered enough to feel lived in, but the pizza boxes on the counter go a long way toward that. There's just something homey about a simple pizza night.]


Now, did you want to eat first and talk after, or is this pressing?

[He has the sneaking suspicion it might be the latter, or else Jack wouldn't have brought it up to begin with and definitely wouldn't be plying him with food.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-06 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
[Ah. So it's this kind of talk. Ford had guessed it might be, but Jack had been vague enough to leave it questionable. Well. Jack's right, they probably should have it out. If this is a relationship that exists primarily because of trust then openness should follow, right?

It's going to be fun to see how much he still thinks that once the ball is in his court and he has to talk about Bill.]


Okay. My night's free.

[Meaning, Jack can take his time. Ford has already done the 'tell your entire tragic backstory' thing before and it can be pretty taxing. He steps around Jack and into the kitchen proper, opening a cabinet and pulling out two glasses.]

Now that I have a permanent home I can indulge in the luxury of drinking my Midori out of an actual glass.

[Wild.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-06 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
[He kind of does feel like this is luxury, is the thing. It's very strange. Normal people have permanent places where they keep all their things, permanently, that they have room for because all that space is theirs. He's spent so long living a life that he carried in his coat pockets. This doesn't really feel like his life yet.

Since his priorities are very much in order, he opens and pours his Midori before so much as even checking what kind of pizza it is that Jack ordered.]


You didn't have to bribe me with food to get me to listen to you, you know. [That, too, is teasing. He drops a lot of that joking air as he settles in at the counter with his drink.] We'll see. It might be wisest to tackle one thing first and then go from there.
Edited 2019-08-06 01:38 (UTC)
meteorman: (97 | i've traveled many lifetimes)

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-07 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
[The double-edged sword to having this kind of conversation with Ford is that not much in it will really shock him. He's seen and heard and experienced so many strange things in his lifetime that much of what Jack is going to tell him, he'll take in stride. There won't be as many awkward questions or pauses to explain basic concepts. On the other hand, having this kind of conversation with Ford means it might not go the way it generally does. Ford is not a man that tends toward platitudes. He says what he thinks, and this has got him in trouble before. Hopefully not tonight.]

That's often why that kind of program is kept under wraps. A high mortality rate is expected. They wouldn't have gone ahead to testing on humans with that ratio of success to failure unless it was considered acceptable.
meteorman: (74 | take only what you can fit)

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-07 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
[Ooh. Ah. Yeah. There's always somebody else, isn't there? Someone else tangled up real tight in the messy history. A friend, a brother. Something like that. If it's possible to eat pizza thoughtfully, that's what Ford does. This is why thinking of yourself as a lone wolf is never productive: it's basically never true.]

And you took him up on it, I assume, because having the not-entirely-legal wildcard on your side instead of operating completely on its own was the smarter move?

[He knows Jack well enough by now to know that Jack is smart, and more than that, that Jack isn't a young rosy-cheeked military boy who believes unflinchingly in the power of government. Probably wasn't by the time he got out of that program, never mind by the time he was done fighting in its war. As someone who more often than not was on the wrong side of the law, Ford very much appreciates when someone is willing to admit that often, that's necessary to get results.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-07 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ouch.

[So. Your classic betrayal. It's not about the war, not really. It's about one man. Ford can relate. And he can also see a lot more clearly where those trust issues stem from, and why Jack wanted to lay them out on the table this early. The past relationship he's hung up on isn't the one where they just drifted apart, it's the one where he got a building dropped on him.

He is self-aware enough, now, to know that a certain amount of delicacy is required in responding to this. He's just bad at being delicate.]


At least it gave you a reason to disappear.

[That's... neutral? And part of him thinks maybe that was the intention the whole time. To give them both a reason to disappear. If Gabe knew about that bomb and didn't get the hell out of dodge then he intended to be there when it went off, and that either points to a suicide mission or an orchestrated cover-up.]

I can't imagine remaining a conspicuous public figure was a viable option at that point.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-07 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
[Okay, he can't just say 'ouch' again, but... ouch. Instead he downs the last of that first glass of Midori and pours himself another one while carefully arranging his words in his head.]

Do you think he was working for Talon when he set that bomb?

[Something tells him the timeline here is important. Not the real timeline because they can't exactly get a good picture of that, but the timeline as Jack perceives it. How deep that betrayal runs.]
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1/2

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-07 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
[Boy. Jack doesn't always sound like a government agent, but when he does he really does. The last time Ford heard talk of this caliber was four years ago and he was impersonating a commanding officer to get his entire family out of being detained and possibly disappeared. How time flies.]

Critically destabilizing an already-crumbling flagship organization very well might have been thought to merit sacrifice.

[Translation: he can absolutely see a political organization murdering one of its own to make something look more convincing.]

But this is all conjecture on my part, and maybe it's not helpful.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-07 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
... Would it be helpful for me to tell you that I have absolutely no plans to drop a building on you?
meteorman: (54 | man alive)

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-08 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
[Laughter is good! Laughter is really, really good! It's way better than yelling or existential dread, which are the two responses Ford is used to getting when he opens his mouth in conversations like these.

Five years, though. Ahaha. Five. Oh, that's such a cute number. Five. So small. And now he's faced with a very tricky decision, because the obvious way to respond here is by saying he's not walking into anything because this is already the space he's been living in for half his life, and then that invites the rest of it. Talking about that Ford is like talking about someone else, someone else he really hates admitting to having been. It always comes with the fear of that being the thing that makes the person he's talking to leave, even if he knows in practice it speaks to how much he's changed.]


Extreme is relative.

[So much is. The tattoo on his left wrist, the lock of unicorn hair with the words 'morality is relative' twisted around it, is there specifically to remind him of that. That and Mabel, who he still misses every day and who would probably be agonized if she knew this kind of romantic drama was going on without her.]

I think I might understand more than you expect. Our situations are... similar.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-08 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I could calculate it. I spent much of my life studying a weirdness attraction principle. Like finds its way to like.

[The specifics might be a little different to the equation he worked on in Gravity Falls but the basic idea remains the same. It's the same principle that led to an entire pocket dimension of lost Mabels.]

It was more like thirty years. In my case.
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peeperoni

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-20 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
[Yeah. That's rough. He realizes there's not much else to say to that. He weighs the merits of elaborating further while he gently but firmly puts a hand on Jolene's face and pushes her across the counter and away from his pizza. Stop that, you little criminal, he sees you.]

I told you that I spent that time traveling the multiverse but not how, ah. How I got there to begin with. But I have to warn you, it's a long story, and it paints me in a... less than flattering light. To put it mildly.

[And no matter how many times people reassure him that the very fact that he's concerned about it means he's not that man anymore, it still bothers him. It will always bother him. Hell, Jack has already said as much to him once, but Jack didn't know the full story then. Maybe the details will change his mind. Who knows. Jack's story is that of a man who through no real fault of his own was put on a pedestal, fell from grace and had to abandon his old life. Ford's is the story of a man who shot himself in both feet and then took out a saw to cut them off for good measure. To him it doesn't really feel comparable, even if Jack might think different.]

So you probably should know before things progress much further.

[Because the real thing that might threaten their relationship is that he has a tendency to be a garbage person and not, like, his relationship baggage. Definitely. Ford Pines is good at priorities.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-08-27 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
[That sure is a nice sentiment and it'd be great if Ford could accept it at face value. He appreciates it either way. He notes the offered hand but doesn't take it; hand holding is a whole separate beast and he doesn't want to complicate this.

Now where does he start? He's done bits and pieces of it with different people but never the whole thing at once. He doesn't even know if he should attempt that now, but it's all so tangled up. The rest of the time things have come up as they apply contextually. Maybe he can just... abridge it. That's probably best.]


All my life I was teased for my hands. I never had any friends except for my brother because no one wanted to be friends with a freak. So when I was old enough and had myself a college grant the first thing I did was decide I was going to dedicate my life to studying the abnormal, and that led me to the one place in the United States with the highest concentration of reported weirdness: Gravity Falls. The more I studied the more it became clear there was something larger at work, some principle I needed to crack, and I was missing the key puzzle piece.

[He takes a long, fortifying drink.]

I found an inscription deep in a cave that could summon a being with answers. I read it. And that's how I met Bill. He appeared to me in a dream and told me that he was a muse, that he chose one great mind a century to inspire, and that he had chosen me. And I was stupid and arrogant enough to believe him.

[That's not exactly it. He was starved for validation. But it's easier to call himself stupid than it is to call himself desperate.]

Stan would have seen through his conman act in a second, but I wasn't-- we weren't talking. At the time.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-09-20 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
['Mentioned'. Yeah, he's mentioned Bill. That's generally what he keeps it to. A little slip here and there, never elaborating, because elaborating necessitates explaining where he fits in and then it all falls apart. But he knows from experience that the moment he starts giving any details the picture will paint itself. Best to not beat around the bush.]

We had a working partnership. He was a source of information for me and I was his conduit into our world. He couldn't enter it himself, but he could possess my body as he pleased. That was our deal, binding until the end of time. [That's not it, that's not all it is, and he knows he has to clarify if only to drive home exactly how stupid he was.] You would think a man raised Orthodox would know not to make deals with demons but I was too infatuated with him to think rationally. Here was a higher being beyond human comprehension telling me that I out of everyone in a hundred years was the best and the brightest. Of course I fell for it.

[He turns to look at Jack and his expression is haunted.]

Have you ever had an out-of-body experience?
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-07 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
In some ways it's the same, I imagine. The, ah, the loss of control, the -- mm.

[Okay. Start over. It's fine to talk about this and especially it's fine to talk about it with someone else who's been through hell and gets it already. It's just hard to unlearn the mindset that it's over, it's done with, it's just something that happened and he shouldn't be bothered by it. Still being effected this long after the fact feels like a weakness, even though he logically knows it isn't, but for all Ford insists he's ruled by logic alone he's more or less always defaulted to the whims of his emotions.

Maybe approach it from a different angle. His voice is carefully neutral while he talks, primarily to help him get through it. He can talk about the factual things that Bill did easily. Talking about the effect they had on him is much more difficult.]


He would take control while I slept. And when I realized his true intentions -- to enter my world and raze it to the ground -- I could denounce him but there was no way to lock him out. So I stopped sleeping. I taped my eyes open. But the human body will die without rest eventually and I had to be alive to work on a plan to stop him, so he always had a way back in. I would pass out and wake up worse off than I had been before. As a being with no physical form of his own he found pain novel. Amusing. He would fall down the stairs rather than walk, that sort of thing.

[It may be becoming apparent now why Ford has trained himself to go for so long on so little sleep. It's not a pride thing or a bad study habit. It's an old fear, but he insists it's the other two because it's easier.

He clears his throat.]


Not anymore, of course. He's dead, and if he wasn't, the plate in my skull would keep him out. But when I say that I have difficulty letting people in it's because I did once, literally, and -- and you see how that went.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-08 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I'm no longer allowed on airplanes.

[He manages a weak laugh and the ghost of a smile before his expression sobers again, which is a funny turn of phrase when he's had enough alcohol by now to maybe feel a little fuzzy around the edges. It's helping, just a bit.]

To detail everything he ever did to me would take longer than either of us wants to spend talking about it. The important part is that it has left marks, however much I wish I could ignore them. I should be able to. It's been years -- but. Anyway.

So long as I never hear you humming We'll Meet Again it should be fine.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-10 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
That's the thing. I have learnt to deal with it. I thought I had.

[The thing is he considers 'shoving it down and doggedly moving forward' to be dealing with it. Until he showed up in this world he'd never really talked about it. He certainly has never worked through it. He's had a few conversations here and there that have made some progress but he's never really had closure. And he's not really smart enough about his own emotions to know that's what he needs. He told himself to suck it up and move on because he had to, and he did. Why wasn't that enough?]

I always... worry. I worry that when someone gets to know me, the probability of them leaving me increases. Familiarity breeds contempt, and I'm not always easy to be around. I would argue that I'm not easy to love. But I am trying every day to be a better man and I think I succeed more at it the more cause I have to try. I would like to be able to give you reasons to stay.

[Oof. That was a lot of sincerity all in one go. He might be tapped out for a minute or two.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-10 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think that will work, for now.

Which reminds me. You're welcome to the couch tonight.

[They've been drinking an awful lot after all, and even the amount of pizza they've both consumed can't totally cancel it out.]

It's big enough that you ought to fit on it.

[If he were smoother and more used to this sort of thing he'd offer his bed, he isn't and he doesn't. He already just did a very intimate thing. One at a time.]
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-10 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ford isn't even thinking ahead to breakfast. He's still chewing over the conversation they just had, picking through it with the determination of a man who wants very badly to solve a problem and only halfway knows how. It occurs to him that he got so caught up in the Bill issue that he didn't even talk about Stanley and, actually, perhaps that's for the best. Out of the two wounds that one is far more raw, and from past conversations Jack knows as much as he really needs to. That Ford messed up somewhere along the line. That he regrets it. That he misses his brother terribly. No point in putting more detail to it now when they're both already tipsy and emotionally over-extended.]

Probably not.

[He gives Jolene's ears a thoughtful rub, then lifts her up in one arm as he stands.]

I'll get you a quilt. I have an entire hall closet with spare things in it now. Very fancy.
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[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-15 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's not being a traitor, it's showing affection for what is clearly her co-parent. It's fine.]

Oh yes. Imported from the finest local home goods store.

[He reaches into the closet and pulled out a folded quilt. It's all black and orange and when Ford tosses it to Jack it becomes apparent that it's covered in a pattern of Pumpkaboo and fall leaves. What is Ford if not a man with a brand?]

There's more in there if you get cold.
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I THINK... IT'S DONE

[personal profile] meteorman 2019-11-16 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Of course. I'm only sorry that I don't have a corn field for you to camp in.

[There it is. There's a bit of recovery after that heavy conversation. Maybe that's the alcohol talking. Maybe he'd just be like that anyway. Hard to say. He hefts Jolene a little more firmly into his arms and turns to head toward the bedroom. Obviously she's coming with. She gets foot of the bed privileges.]

I'll see you in the morning.