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Tyler Tian Huang | 黄泰勒田 ([personal profile] asmywitness) wrote in [community profile] victory_road2020-03-19 02:43 pm

Video; self-captioned

[There's a chance people might recognise the sallow-skinned, overweight young man who hangs around Goldenrod City; the Rockets certainly will, given that he's one as well. But currently he's wearing a collared shirt, under a light knit sweater, under a thick blue peacoat, and is very obviously sitting in a cafe. There's a Natu sitting on his shoulder, staring intently and directly at the camera; which twitches back and forth occasionally, evidently being held by a Pokemon since both of Tyler's hands are visible.

And the reason for that is quickly evident: Tyler is quickly speaking in sign language, with translations to English coming up as captions beneath. He looks a bit nervous, actually, but his face is schooled to have an expression of polite interest.]


I'm stuck in Goldenrod for the time being - I didn't realise my job wouldn't allow travel for a while. Would anyone be able to help me find a specific Pokemon? As far as I'm aware it's not a particularly rare one. It's called CROAGUNK [the observant might note that he fingerspells the name with one hand] but I can hunt down something of a similar level in Goldenrod or the routes nearby.
fingersandteeth: (thinking)

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[personal profile] fingersandteeth 2020-03-19 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have a Croagunk either--I'm as stuck here as you are, having taken the same devil's bargain for a stable paycheck--but I can add a mystery egg in to sweeten the pot for whoever takes you up.
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[personal profile] fingersandteeth 2020-03-19 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I've got some good working theories?
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[personal profile] fingersandteeth 2020-03-19 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
Considering where I found them, it's either got to be a ghost or possibly Milli Vanilli.
fingersandteeth: (unsure)

[personal profile] fingersandteeth 2020-03-19 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. She just lives with the ghosts anyway. She's a Munna, I think. Little floating pink dream-eater.
strings_theory: (ida7)

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[personal profile] strings_theory 2020-03-19 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Where are they at? Might be able to swing by wherever they're at and figure somethin' out. Since I'm not really doing much else atm.
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[personal profile] strings_theory 2020-03-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Safari Zone, huh...

No promises, but I'll see what I can do? Since I'm over into Kanto right now, but if no one else bites, I'll try and make it a priority.
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[personal profile] strings_theory 2020-03-19 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Never know, might end up there if some other shit pops up like that festival and the race and all that.

But Fuschia might be a better bet, yeah. I don't... think that's too far outta my way, gotta head there at some point anyway.
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[personal profile] strings_theory 2020-03-20 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
UHHHH.

Lavender, I believe. That fuckin' place with the ghosts or some shit.
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Video + Text. In a way.

[personal profile] schachmeister 2020-03-21 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
[In the end, Armin ends up watching the video twice before he can even respond. The first time he watches it, the realisation that this man seems to be speaking through gesture (and it is one that takes a while to actually click) is one that distracts him enough that he doesn't even notice what he is asking for. It's just that -- he comes from a world where you were either able-bodied and contributed or you were kicked to the wayside, left to become a beggar on the streets or try and make it in one of the underground cities or freakshows. In rare cases, a prosperous enough family might be able to continue to shelter and care for someone who couldn't contribute themselves but when most could barely feed themselves these days, such acts of kindness were few and far between.

So basically, bright as he might be, sign language is not something Armin has any experience with.

His first instinct is to respond as he always does, through speech, but he pauses before actually starting the recording. The man obviously couldn't speak or he would have. But does that mean he also can't hear? Or was it just that this was the way everybody spoke wherever he was from (in which place, this person might not even be human). He could switch to text, of course, but this man had chosen to use video, right? There is a certain politeness in responding in kind. Plus, maybe he wants the visual aspect for some reason?

In the end, Armin settles for an odd combination of both. When he responds, it is in video. But he is also holding a notepad with written text.]


I'm sorry, I wasn't sure if I should speak or write things down for you.

If-- if you don't mind me asking. Are you speaking through your hands?

[And on the notepad:

Hello. I wasn't certain if you wanted me to respond by speaking or by writing things down. Please let me know which one works best for you.

And if I can ask -- are you talking with your hands?
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[personal profile] schachmeister 2020-03-21 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
[Armin listens with rapt attention, his eyes watching the movements of Tyler's hands as if he had never seen hands before. He's drinking in this new subject, trying to assimilate as much as he can at once. And once he's read Tyler's words, he quickly starts writing again. His handwriting is a little more sloppy now, but still pretty readable.]

That is incredible. I didn't know such a thing was possible. We don't have anything like this back in my world. Do a lot of people know how to speak like this where you are from? And how did you learn?

When you say your team -- do you mean your pokemon are creating the text for you?
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[personal profile] schachmeister 2020-03-23 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
So everybody where you lived was deaf? Did they move there from other regions?

[Armin is interpreting community as a physical location and group of people. Something like a village or town of deaf people.]

That is incredible. I never thought that pokemon could be used in that manner. Did you come up with that idea yourself?

[Armin never had cause to wonder about this sort of subject, though if this leads to him reading up on pokemon service animals, then hey, a new subject to learn about.]
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[personal profile] schachmeister 2020-04-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
A few million? In one city?

[The whole human population within the walls had numbered roughly a million. The idea that there could be cities large enough to contain a few million people is something that goes beyond what Armin can imagine. How big would those cities be? Would they be the size of a country and just stretch as far as the eye could see? Could you travel through them for days and not get to the end of them? All of these thoughts and more flit through Armin's brain and his shock is quite plain on his face.]

How does that work exactly? Does the dog fetch things for you? Like, if you told it you wanted your shirt, it would bring it to you?
standless: (who put that door there)

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[personal profile] standless 2020-03-25 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that sign language? I've never seen it employed so quickly! That's incredible!

Though it is good that your pokemon appears capable of interpretation, as I can't properly make out what is being said at all... (Though I suspect that may be a matter of my era in respect to others here)

Regardless, you asked of 'Croagunk'; I actually have one! Though I must ask if you are preferential to one of your own capture...

Oh, or for that matter, its evolution! I suspect Douglass is quite close...
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standless: (now wait a second)

[personal profile] standless 2020-03-26 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I see!

I've heard at that obtaining 'badges' might help in proving one's strength to such pokemon, but this is the first I've heard of the true consequences...

Hmm. I suspect that I could perhaps procure an egg with some dedication, but I need to make certain I can find someone who can actually produce eggs with croagunk first in that case. I don't believe I have any pokemon compatible at the moment...
standless: (who put that door there)

[personal profile] standless 2020-03-26 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
An egg for an egg? That would be wonderful!

According to croagunk's information, they're compatible only with 'human-like' pokemon...I fear that my only other 'human-like' is also male, however...
standless: (now wait a second)

[personal profile] standless 2020-03-26 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
What!?

Everything?! Just what sort of pokemon is this 'Ditto'!?

I would want to be certain they're comfortable with that sort of set up first, but if both pokemon are willing to create eggs together...


[It really helps that someone explained the 'mystery' of the mystery of egg creation, because otherwise this would be far more touchy for Jonathan to even consider. But apparently they just kind of Happen, so.]

That would truly be wonderful however- you said you are in Goldenrod?
standless: (GASP...)

[personal profile] standless 2020-03-26 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Ah!

Hence the name 'ditto', of course.

I am indeed; it seems like a wonderful experience, and after the previous event, I certainly cannot turn down such an opportunity!

I take it you will also be going? Considering the date, that makes the initial part of this transaction quite simple indeed...though from there we will of course need to wait for the pokemon to cooperate at such a level that there can be eggs to deliver.
standless: (smile! :D)

[personal profile] standless 2020-03-26 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Compatible?

Ah, of course! If there are numerous spoken languages, then surely that would be the same for gestural ones...this certainly does shed some light on the motions I thought I could recognize- they didn't appear to match at all with what was captioned.

In any case, I look forward to this meeting! I do hope an easier method of interpretation arises however- travelling here appears to be incredibly easy to do, and it's simply terrible to not have the choice because of a matter as vital as language.

(If there is a method with which one could learn your specific form of it, please share however- I would like to at least be able to try by the time we meet, and particularly in future meetings!!)
standless: (now wait a second)

[personal profile] standless 2020-03-27 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh dear.

Indeed, given the alternative I can see very quickly why text is the better option for now.