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amaure) wrote in victory_road2023-06-07 11:58 pm
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[It's later in the evening when this text hits the network. And by later, it's getting close to midnight. A little unusual for Emet-Selch to be up so late, and yet here he is.]
In my time being here, there certainly has been some few theories on what the nature of this world we find ourselves in is. Whether it is its own true living world, a simulation of one, or perhaps even a game. I have mine own theories, but this isn't quite about that.
Nay, I cannot help but wonder that, should this world prove itself a simulation, to what purpose do you believe it would serve? What would its creator wish to glean from this all? Or, if not to acquire knowledge from those of us within, then what is our collective purpose?
It is a thought I find myself considering now and again, and so I wish to know my fellow imports' thoughts on the matter—hypothetical as it may yet prove to be.
[Someone's been left alone with his thoughts for a little too long it seems.]
In my time being here, there certainly has been some few theories on what the nature of this world we find ourselves in is. Whether it is its own true living world, a simulation of one, or perhaps even a game. I have mine own theories, but this isn't quite about that.
Nay, I cannot help but wonder that, should this world prove itself a simulation, to what purpose do you believe it would serve? What would its creator wish to glean from this all? Or, if not to acquire knowledge from those of us within, then what is our collective purpose?
It is a thought I find myself considering now and again, and so I wish to know my fellow imports' thoughts on the matter—hypothetical as it may yet prove to be.
[Someone's been left alone with his thoughts for a little too long it seems.]
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[Doppio has been here for a few years at this point, but he's never thought that hard about the nature of this place. That, of course, has something to do with his general tendency not to think too hard about anything whatsoever.]
If we're all in a simulation right now...
Does that mean we're just sitting somewhere with sci-fi helmets on?!
How does that work?
And why WOULD somebody want to put us in a simulation anyway??
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For example, we cannot climb a ledge regardless of how skilled of a climber one might be otherwise. It makes no sense at all, unless this world from its inception was programmed to disallow the action regardless of any other parameter outside of what it deems an acceptable action. The music, likewise, constantly playing without cessation. There are many more of these anomalies that present as a flaw in the programming and design, even down to the fact this world constantly updates and the non-imported population suddenly act as though these updates always existed.
Really, the evidence is nigh endless when you start to collect it. As for why? Well, is that not the premise of my question? Why do you think they might?
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Well I... I don't know!
Maybe it's aliens? Running tests on us??
I don't know!
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Care to elaborate?
Also, I implore that you do not fuss too hard about your answer, there isn't really a wrong one, considering we have not the means to glean the truth as we presently are.
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You know, like in the movies?
Little guys from space experimenting on us somehow...
[Despite the reassurance, Doppio can't help fearing that his level of rhetoric just isn't up to Emet-Selch's standards.]
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I've been here almost ten years now and there's never been anything to indicate it's anything less than real.
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There is much here that would suggest it is a constructed mock of reality, and having personal experience with the subject matter and how in depth a simulation can truly be with all you spoke of in play, I do not see how your experience with rudimentary simulations refutes mine experience with creating those far more believable. This one is almost embarrassing with how transparent it seems to one such as I.
However, the point of this isn't to get into a debate about whether or not it is, but rather, in the hypothetical scenario that it is, what purpose it might serve. I know what mine did.
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Plus there was that time people actually met Arceus. And I know you could say 'well that's just part of the simulation', but why bother with that?
And that's just it. I can't imagine any reason or point to kidnapping all these different people from all these different worlds and stick them in a fake world that is a real as the real thing. Especially with how long it's been going on, and how people can come and go and come back. It's not like we do anything that special here, we live the same kinds of lives as plenty of Pokemon trainers.
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Can you explain to me the music then? How about the ledges we cannot climb despite the fact we should be able to? How about the world updates where the natives act as is these Pokémon and new regions always existed, but decidedly did not? How we are incapable of leaving these specific regions physically, despite there not being a sound reason for us not being able to? The various glitches with the Type: Null? Our inability to die despite taking considerable damage, instead we simply appear at the Pokémon center as a respawn point?
All of these suggest a pre-programmed world, either through mechanical means or magical, there is a very flawed way in which this world operates that is not consistent with the natural world as many know it. If your world was similar in these cases, then I would begin to consider the validity of your own existence. Or don't, as you seem to be opposed to attempting to conceive of the world outside your myopic lens.
Tell me, have you ever pursued anything for the sake of knowledge or sating scientific curiosity?
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But yeah, magic has always pretty much been the explanation that works for me. Or whatever you want to call that sort of thing - we don't really use the term 'magic' that way where I come from. What we do have are spirits. Which honestly are a lot like Pokemon in a lot of ways. Complete with all kinds of weird and wacky powers and helping out humans. Or...messing with them, depending. Which has me thinking about what you're saying, about how this world works.
This world is REALLY set up for Pokemon. More than it is for people, if you look at the wilderness and even how we travel. Plenty of Pokemon can effect the world around them and people in all kinds of ways. Look at psychic types. Who's to say that some powerful psychic Pokemon isn't just messing with locals' heads to make them think they remember things? Or is making us all hear music that isn't actually coming from somewhere.
I guess if I was going to look at this as a simulation of any kind, it would make sense to me that a Pokemon or multiple Pokemon were behind it.
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I see, that is an interesting theory, though I wonder at what point of the confluence betwixt this being a natural world and that imposed by psychic types starts and ends. For example, if they are indeed changing the minds of the natives to believe these things always existed, then that also raises the question of this world's current state in which it must needs be expanded. Are we presently in a world as it is being constructed? And if so, how much is this world worthy of being considered "real" next to other worlds that were not made in this way.
My people certainly have their understanding of reality's laws and the natural order, what constitutes as real in the natural sense, or that which is truly alive. What purpose do we serve if there are humans here already, arguably created for the Pokémon. To what end do we serve to invade this space? We were put here, brought here, or are merely copies of our original selves to serve some purpose within this world, and that is what I wonder.
Are we to feed this experiment, if it is one? Are we to be observed as we assimilate? Or tested to see if we will when robbed of any other path available? That we would be reduced to such a mundane scale, or that this world has the power to even do as such, it provides far more questions than answers.
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I don't know. Maybe...Pokemon wanted to learn more about humans and couldn't learn anything new without new humans to study. Or maybe it has something to do with how a lot of us get changed somehow. Hell maybe that's where new types of Pokemon come from, they take our powers from us and give them to new types of Pokemon.
Or maybe they just think we'd be happier here. Pokemon don't always think like us.
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[At one point he was less skeptical. Still skeptical, mind, merely less so.]
As for the matter of them appropriating our powers for new Pokémon, that is a possibility. Though, I suppose we would have to account for those who are naturally as mundane as the natives here. Perhaps their inclusion is a mistake? Or it might be done to obfuscate their intent. It is truly hard to say.
If it is not obvious, I come from a people who delighted in the philosophical. We were all researchers of various subject matters and specialties. I suppose I simply missed such discussion, particularly when this world offers much to scrutinize in its state of existence.
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Or maybe those people aren't as mundane as they thought. Latent powers or something. I know in my world, a lot of times your abilities don't really make themselves known until after childhood. But not always, mine manifested when I was four.
Yeah I could tell. I probably should have studied more philosophy when I had the chance, I was kind of born into the spiritual leader business. But I didn't really get around to it.
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huh...if the world was a simulation.........
i think its purpose would be to have fun
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Oh? I suppose that in itself could stand to reason. After all, it does seem this world has made many attempts to minimize harm or discomfort. Indeed, it encourages adventure and discovery in equal measure.
Tell me, has it been succeeding in its hypothetical purpose for you?
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hmmmmmmmmm id say so!
but i could do without the camping, i kind of hate bugs
spiders especially
the spiders here are HUGE
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Maybe our purpose here is to find and make our own purpose, separated from what we knew before on a clean sort of slate.
And maybe the higher force that brought us here is...curious? And wants to see what lots of different folks will make of that.
It's the only idea I've really got that feels like it could be possible. Then again, I know it's annoyingly broad.
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Broad is not necessarily a bad thing. Specifics aren't always the aim, and with something so large as this, something as broad as that could very well be the answer. Valid as any other theory posited, I would say. Though, some of your word choice does pique my curiosity.
A clean slate, this would imply that the slate might need cleaning, but what of those who were content and without any needs for cleansing? Are they meant to be another variable, perhaps to obfuscate the intent for those who may need their slate cleansed? Are they here to help those who do require a clean slate to assimilate and adjust?
I do not expect you to know, these are more rhetorical questions. Yet, if you have thoughts on the matter, I shall be glad to hear them.
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I know it's not bad, but a lot of folks might consider it a cop-out. Too wide a field and you don't look like you're taking a stance on anything.
Ah, well, I guess it's less a dirty slate that needs cleaning and more...a space cut off from what came before for each person. Maybe it's more like a blank canvas? Something completely fresh and new and different, no matter what it was you had before, whether it be good or bad or average. Like...no matter where you came from, here you are on almost as equal footing as can possibly be arranged. It might not be exact and totally perfect, and a lot of the choices of persons who come and go seem completely random and on a whim, but it's...an attempt.
Of sorts.